Hearts of Iron 4 Wiki talk:Style

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Second person[edit source]

The rule "Use a third person narrative when possible" makes for a very strange style. It's like we write in a dialect of English that lacks the word "you" and we say "the player" instead. It can be painful to read and even more painful to write like that. Sometimes this is mixed with imperative sentences, especially when taking about the interface - "press this button, go here, do that". This is still second person but no one seems to pick up on this and attempt to correct it. I think the objection to second person is not so much a stylistic choice as that "you" is less general than it could be, e.g. when the AI could also do something we could say "the country" instead.

For example, Beginner's guide#Recruit and deploy formerly said:

This is where one decides what types of divisions one wants to train.

Here "one" is, again, just an awkward proxy for "you". This is in no way idiomatic or a natural way to write. More commonly we'd see something like

This is where the player decides what types of divisions he or she wants to train.

which raises the annoying issue of pronouns. But I think we should be honest in writing, so I changed it to

This is where you decide what types of divisions you want to train.

The rule itself says country guides are exempt. I agree that "you" should be avoided where we can say something else more specific instead, such as "the country" or "Poland" or "a division" etc. But the Beginner's guide should also be exempt, and in general any guide, and anything referring to the interface (after all the AI doesn't use it). This argument applies to all Paradox wikis. Hairy Dude (talk) 02:19, 27 December 2016 (CET)

Agree. – Lillebror (talk) 10:04, 28 December 2016 (CET)